This might be a thread better suited for the seattle beer snobs tribe. I'm mainly a microbrew/hard cider drunkard, and when I first discovered microbrew, I got into bashing the macrobrews. But I've since come to think that the macrobrews have their place. As in, most microbrews are ales, and when it's freakin hot out, an ice cold pilsner can hit the spot. Sure, if the pub or club is pouring a la conner pilsner, I'll go with that. But if it's sweaty and they're pouring the usual bullshit "micros" like Widmer hef and red hook and Alaskan amber, I'll go with the macro lager. And pabst is one of the better ones, clean without the aftertaste that you get with say, miller. There are a lot of microbrews out there that taste worse than pabst. Drinking pabst is not particularly cool, but drinking hefeweissen immediately labels you a douchebag.

And if you're a serious seattle drunk, you'll enjoy the sort of dive bars that don't serve the micros. I recall taking a fancy friend to the old Fronteir room, and she asked "what's on tap?" and the gruff lesbian bartender said "water." and walked away. Yeah, that was the cool. And drinking a ranier stubby in the Frontier, or a bourbon, bud back at the old Rendezvous is way cooler than sipping the finest beer at the latona.

You can also spend the extra couple of bucks and get something that went through the horse the haed way.. Face it, the Microbrew revolution has made a lot of great brews available, but there are also a lot of beers out there that qualify as craft brews and they're much worse tasting than Pabst, or whatever cheapo macro you like. I'm thinking of Red Hook's ballard bitter, Widmer's hefeweissen, Mac and Jack's Amber, and Fat Tire. Thsoe beers fucking suck, and embody the worst of beer snobbery. someone drinking a shitty beer, but thinking that they paid a little more for it and it has a lemon on the ridge, so it's better. Fuck that shit. An expensive beer can suck as bad as a cheap one. And often worse, since the macrobrew is at least consistent.

try liquor. you can drink more of it, and thus get more drunk.

We-ell, not that I don't love a chilly PBR or three or four on occasion, but check out Georgetown's Bob's Brown Ale...the same folks who makes Manny's. It's a memorial to a friend who died, and all proceeds go to Ronald McDonald House.

And who says pickling my liver isn't a good cause?